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Underserved is not the same as resistant:

Andy's biggest pre-launch assumption was that a blue-collar, industrial buyer base would push back on adopting software. It turned out to be wrong. "Nine times out of ten when we explain what we're trying to do or show them the product, it's like thank God, we've been waiting for this." The real dynamic in this market wasn't resistance — it was absence. No capital had flowed in to build the right product, so buyers were excited the moment something credible appeared. Founders entering legacy or overlooked verticals should stress-test whether the assumed adoption barrier is real or whether it's a story the market tells itself because no one has tried yet.

Post-close usage is the metric that actually matters:

Renterra's number one success metric after closing a deal is product usage. That single north star drives everything about how they handle implementation — free of charge, fully white-glove, unlimited training, unlimited support, with the explicit goal of getting customers live and seeing value as quickly as possible. Andy's logic: "Once we have a customer up and running, using the system well, we have them for a very long time." The free implementation is expensive, but it's deliberately framed as an LTV bet, not a cost center. Founders who charge for implementation or treat it as a hand-off risk optimizing the wrong variable — closed deals look like revenue until churn reveals they weren't.

Start maximally inefficient, then engineer the process down:

Renterra's original onboarding involved five to ten meetings per customer, all manual, nothing automated, with Andy doing every single one himself. The explicit strategy was to over-invest first and find efficiencies later. Today their onboarding process is 80% faster than where it started, and the team effort required has dropped dramatically. The same sequencing applied to sales: six to nine months of Andy running the full cycle solo, then another six to nine months building systems with the first few hires before it was truly scalable. Founders often try to build the scalable version first and end up with a process they don't actually understand. Andy's framing: if you can prove it's doable and show you're willing to do it yourself, you earn the credibility to hold the standard once others are doing it.

Phone outbound has a structural advantage in local markets that email doesn't:

Renterra's primary acquisition channel remains direct phone outbound — Andy personally made 10,000+ cold calls before building a team, and reps today are doing several hundred calls per day. What makes this sustainable in a market with only ~15,000 potential customers is a dynamic Andy discovered through experimentation: the same prospect can be called every two months and will typically have no recollection of the previous conversation. Timing changes, business circumstances change, and unlike email — where a spam record accumulates and burns the channel — phone calls don't leave a paper trail. In local, owner-operated markets, high-frequency phone outbound is durable in a way it isn't in enterprise SaaS.

Scale the constraint, not the whole operation:

Andy describes Renterra's operation as a factory assembly line where the pinch point moves over time — sometimes it's product, sometimes sales, sometimes customer success. The discipline is to identify which function is actually constraining growth at a given moment and open the aperture there, rather than scaling everything simultaneously. For Renterra, this meant holding off on building a marketing engine until outbound, product, and implementation were all operating in balance. Marketing is now the next section of the assembly line being built out — with a plan that includes both paid acquisition and educational content — because the other sections can support what marketing will bring in.

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The $100 Billion Marreket Nobody Built Software For

Walk past any construction site in America and there’s a 60% chance the equipment you’re looking at — the excavators, cranes, specialty lifters — isn’t owned by the construction company running the job. They rented it from one of roughly 15,000 local equipment rental businesses operating across the country.

Ten years ago, that figure was 20%. COVID supply chain shortages that pushed lead times to two to three years, a high-rate environment that made capex unattractive, and increasing equipment specialization all accelerated a structural shift already underway. Today, rental is the default.

And until recently, every one of those 15,000 businesses was managing their operations on pen, paper, or software built 30 to 40 years ago.

Andy Feis spent five years as a management consultant rotating through manufacturing, mining, logistics, and construction before he saw it clearly. “This is a $100 billion market that runs on paper, pen and paper, or legacy systems that look like they should be on a computer this deep.” He co-founded Renterra to modernize it — and built his go-to-market from scratch with no established playbook to follow.

 

The assumption that turned out to be wrong

Before making a single sales call, Andy had a theory about where the resistance would come from. Blue-collar, owner-operated businesses. Decades of muscle memory. He expected the fight to be convincing skeptical buyers that change was worth the pain.

He was wrong about the fight. He was right about the opportunity.

“Nine times out of ten when we explain what we’re trying to do or show them the product, it’s like ‘thank God, we’ve been waiting for this.'”

The actual friction, when it existed, was narrower: legacy software users who could see the value but weren’t sure the switching cost was worth it. “I see the value, but is the value big enough that it’s worth undergoing the system change required?” That’s a solvable sales problem. It’s a different challenge entirely from market-level skepticism.

For founders entering overlooked verticals, this distinction is worth sitting with. Assumed adoption barriers often reflect a market that was never sold to credibly — not one that genuinely doesn’t want to change.

 

Building the outbound engine with no map

With no SaaS precedent in the space, Andy defaulted to the most direct channel available: the phone. He compiled lists of rental company owners, dialed one by one, and asked to speak to the decision-maker. On his busiest days: 300 to 400 calls. Before handing the function off, he’d made more than 10,000 personally.

His first CRM was a spreadsheet and Notion — dropdown fields, manual tracking, nothing automated. That wasn’t a failure of ambition. It was a deliberate choice to start moving before over-engineering the infrastructure.

Phone remains Renterra’s number one customer acquisition channel today. What makes high-volume outbound sustainable in a finite market of 15,000 prospects is something Andy discovered through deliberate experimentation: the same owner can be called every two months with no meaningful memory of the previous conversation. “What might be a very memorable moment for you as the sales rep — when you got told off — they will have no recollection of that a few months later.”

Unlike email, which accumulates a visible record and progressively burns goodwill, phone resets. For local, owner-operated buyers who aren’t living in their inbox, this is a structural advantage that makes high-frequency outbound viable in a way most founders don’t model correctly.

 

Usage as the post-close north star

Renterra’s most consequential GTM decision wasn’t about acquisition — it was about what happens after the contract is signed.

Their number one post-close success metric is product usage. That single choice cascades into everything: implementation is free, fully white-glove, with unlimited training and unlimited support. The explicit goal is to get customers live and deriving value as quickly as possible.

The original onboarding involved five to ten meetings per customer. All manual. Nothing automated. Andy ran every single session himself. “We do all of the work. Don’t make your customer do anything.”

Over time they engineered it down by 80%. But starting with maximum effort was deliberate — the inefficiency was the point. You can’t systematize a process you don’t deeply understand, and you can’t hold a team to a standard you haven’t personally hit.

“Once we have a customer up and running, using the system well, we have them for a very long time.” Free implementation is expensive. It’s also a bet on LTV that compounds in ways that charging for onboarding never does.

 

The assembly line model for scaling GTM functions

Andy describes Renterra’s operation as a factory assembly line — and the metaphor has more precision than it might initially seem.

The insight isn’t that every function matters. It’s that the constraint moves, and your investment should move with it. “There are times where you’ll feel like the product is delimiting things in the assembly line. There’s times when sales does. There’s times when customer success does.”

The sequencing at Renterra bore this out directly. Six to nine months of Andy running sales and onboarding entirely solo. Another six to nine months building actual systems with the first hires. Only then did individual functions become scalable in a way that could absorb more volume without degrading.

Marketing hasn’t been activated yet. It’s the next section deliberately being added to the line — planned to include both paid acquisition and educational content — because the other sections can now support what a marketing engine would generate. “We’ve invested very little into direct marketing thus far,” Andy said. A meaningful share of new business now arrives as organic inbound from word-of-mouth, without a dollar spent on it.

The failure mode this model avoids is the one where founders scale acquisition ahead of their ability to implement and retain — getting out over their skis, as Andy puts it, and damaging the customer experience in pursuit of the next growth number.

Renterra grew 3 to 4x in the last year with a couple percent penetration of a 15,000-company market. The green grass, as Andy described it, is still largely in front of them.

 

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