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Design Role Portfolios for Executive Functions You've Never Hired:

Huck developed a methodology for hiring his first VP of Marketing by conducting discovery interviews with marketers to understand skill differences, then mapping capabilities to specific business needs. His approach resulted in a role designed as "50% product marketing, 30% brand, 20% demand gen" based on actual company challenges rather than generic job descriptions.

Recognize the Rationalization Trap Before It Destroys Your Hiring Standards:

The biggest mistake Huck sees in early-stage hiring is when leaders aren't genuinely excited about candidates but rationalize their way into offers. His rule: you should be "beaming and stoked" about every hire, especially your first 20 people, since A-players hire A-players and B-players hire C-players in a cascading effect.

Use Function-Specific Evaluation Methods That Match Role:

Requirements Huck applies different candidate assessment strategies based on job function: sales candidates must demonstrate multi-threaded, creative outreach to multiple stakeholders during application, while engineering candidates should follow standard processes. This approach tests the exact skills needed for success in each role.

Implement Advanced Reference Call Techniques to Identify Top:

Performers Rather than checkbox validation, Huck listens for language patterns that differentiate mediocre from exceptional candidates. He distinguishes between references who say "I would hire them again" versus those who say they represent the "top 1% of people I've worked with in my career" and would "move mountains to work with that person again."

Apply the Patience Principle to Avoid Urgency-Driven Hiring Mistakes:

Huck learned that "the period of time that you have this person is probably gonna be longer than the period of time that you have a gap in a role that you need to fill." His framework: 3 weeks of additional search time prevents 4-6 months of performance management with the wrong hire.

Conversation
Highlights

In this episode of How I Hire, Andy Mowat speaks with Evan Huck, CEO & Co-Founder of UserEvidence, about his systematic approach to executive hiring while scaling from zero to 40 employees. As a former AE turned CEO who still interviews every single hire, Evan shares advanced frameworks for role architecture, candidate evaluation differentiation by function, and decision-making processes that prevent costly mis-hires. His methodology reveals how early-stage leaders can maintain hiring excellence while building the foundational team that determines long-term trajectory.

Topics discussed:

  • The role portfolio methodology for unfamiliar executive functions—how Evan mapped his first VP Marketing hire to 50% product marketing, 30% brand, 20% demand gen by conducting discovery interviews with marketers to understand skill set differences, then matching capabilities to company-specific initiatives rather than generic job descriptions.
  • Function-specific candidate evaluation strategies that match role requirements—why sales candidates must demonstrate multi-threaded outreach to multiple stakeholders during application (testing core job skills), while engineering candidates should follow standard application processes, with marketing requiring essay-based assessments for writing evaluation.
  • The rationalization identification framework for preventing mis-hires—distinguishing between candidates who make hiring managers “beaming and stoked” versus those who trigger qualification language like “lots of relevant experience” and “really good at this dimension,” which signals dangerous rationalization patterns.
  • Advanced reference call techniques that extract meaningful differentiation—moving beyond checkbox validation to identify “would hire again” versus “top 1% of my career, would move mountains to work with again” responses, plus recognizing the power signal when employed candidates provide current CEO references.
  • The Socratic overrule method for maintaining hiring standards without undermining manager autonomy—using inception techniques to challenge enthusiasm levels and test conviction through defensive responses rather than direct vetoes, ensuring A-players hire A-players cascading effect.
  • Skip-level interview strategy as competitive differentiation—how CEO involvement in non-executive hires becomes a closing tool against competitors while serving as cultural bar-raising, with plans to maintain two-level skip interviews through 300+ employees.
  • The patience-over-urgency principle with quantified decision frameworks—recognizing that 3 weeks of additional search time prevents 4-6 months of performance management, while offering 2-week decompression periods between roles for tenured candidates to reset before multi-year commitments.
  • Consulting-style aptitude assessment across all roles using problem-solving scenarios unrelated to specific function—evaluating raw IQ, assumption-laying ability, and “chill humble” cultural fit over experience matching, particularly critical for early-career hires where potential trumps track record.

ABOUT YOUR HOST: 

Andy Mowat has built GTM engines for top companies throughout his career. He led Revenue Operations and Demand Gen at four unicorns, including scaling from $10M to $100M ARR at both Upwork and Culture Amp, and helping guide Box and Carta through IPO scale. With a passion for connecting people, Andy has advised executives on their careers for years and launched Whispered to make searching for executive roles less intimidating. 

Learn more about about Whispered: www.whispered.com

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