Persefoni’s Path to Product-Market Fit: Turning Complex Carbon Accounting into an Intuitive Platform
When calculating a company’s carbon footprint requires analyzing everything from electricity usage to employee air travel to office catering, simplification becomes crucial for adoption. In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, Persefoni founder Kentaro Kawamori revealed their approach to making complex carbon accounting accessible to enterprises.
The Complexity Challenge “If you’re a company and you’re trying to understand what your carbon footprint is, you have to understand the carbon footprint from a huge swath of activity,” Kentaro explains. “Everything from the electricity that you use in your buildings to the air travel that you do as an employee base, to the food that you cater into the offices.”
Finding the Familiar Framework Rather than reinventing the wheel, Persefoni anchored their solution in something enterprises already understood: financial accounting. “Think of that very similar to what financial accounting does. It takes in a wide variety of data sources and financial accounting that could be inventory sold, inventory held, sales process, so on and so forth,” Kentaro notes. “Same exact concept for carbon accounting.”
Building Trust Through Standards The platform was built around established methodologies. “There’s a methodology called the Greenhouse Gas Protocol. You can think of that like Gap, and our system of records and accounting platform has codified that very similar to what SAP oracle do for financial accounting,” Kentaro explains. This standardization helped build trust with enterprise customers.
The Simplification Challenge Making complex systems appear simple became a core focus. “How do you make the complex simple?” Kentaro asks. “Boy, there is nothing harder than making something complex at least seem simple, because you generally can’t make it simple, but you have to make it seem simple for the user.”
Meeting Enterprise Needs The platform needed to serve two primary use cases. “An investor asks a company and says, what’s your carbon footprint? I need you to disclose this because I’m trying to disclose this to somebody,” Kentaro describes. “And then secondly, of course, there’s been a huge proliferation of net zero commitments.”
Validating the Approach The success of their approach is evident in their growth: from about a dozen customers at the beginning of 2022 to over 200 by early 2023. This rapid adoption validates their strategy of making carbon accounting as systematic and trusted as financial accounting.
Looking Forward The future involves even greater simplification. “I always give the analogy that imagine the 6000 pages of the IRS tax code and if you didn’t have TurboTax to help you navigate through that’s what we want to help our customers do, is massively simplify that journey for us,” Kentaro shares.
For B2B founders building complex technical solutions, Persefoni’s experience offers valuable lessons. First, anchor new concepts in familiar frameworks to accelerate understanding and adoption. Second, build on established standards to create trust. Finally, focus on making complexity appear simple rather than trying to eliminate it entirely.
The key insight? When building for enterprise, simplification doesn’t mean dumbing down – it means making complexity manageable through familiar frameworks and trusted standards. This approach helped Persefoni transform carbon accounting from a spreadsheet-based chore into an intuitive platform that enterprises could trust and adopt.