Avi Cohen.
CEO and Co-Founder · Entrio
Avi Cohen is the CEO and Co-Founder of Entrio, a platform dedicated to responsible tech adoption, particularly within financial institutions. With a background in IT asset management and a focus on sustainable growth through efficient technology use, Avi has positioned Entrio as a leader in optimizing and reusing tech assets to align with corporate and environmental governance.
Guest
Avi Cohen
CEO and Co-Founder
Company:
Entrio
Location:
New York, New York, United States
Funding:
$11M Raised
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Creating Blue Ocean Categories: How One Startup is Rethinking Enterprise Tech Stack Management

Enterprise software founders face a critical decision early on: compete in an existing category or create a new one. For Entrio founder Avi Cohen, the conventional wisdom of fitting into established categories like SaaS management didn't align with what he was hearing from financial institutions.

"We actually created a new category and it was a challenge that we're facing this intersection of maybe we should try to fit ourselves into an existing category, just go forward with something that we believe is kind of a blue ocean category," Avi explains in a recent Category Visionaries episode.

The path to this decision started with a classic startup pivot. Initially, Entrio aimed to help banks get exposure to external innovation and new technologies. But through customer conversations, they discovered what Avi calls "the iceberg phenomena" - the real problem wasn't above water, but underneath.

"What we thought was the biggest problem above the water turned out to be a mistake," Avi shares. "When we started to talk to a lot of financial institutions, we understood that the problem is not actually above the water, is underneath the water."

This insight led them to focus on helping enterprises better utilize their existing tech stacks rather than adding new tools. The challenge was how to position this solution in the market. Existing categories like SaaS management only captured a fraction of what they were doing, as Avi notes: "SaaS represents a very small portion of their technology stack. So at least 75 or 80% of their technology stack is still either on prem or is being delivered in a different way."

Instead of forcing themselves into an ill-fitting category, they created a new one: tech adoption. This wasn't just a marketing decision - it shaped their entire go-to-market approach. They focused on enterprise architects within financial institutions, positioning themselves as a solution for better utilizing existing technology investments.

Their GTM motion evolved to address different segments of the market. "What we've been investing a lot of time in the last couple of months is actually how can we take the brand that we build, the new language, the branding, the new category around tech adoption and responsible tech adoption and try to bring it into downstream potential customers," Avi explains.

A key part of their success has been adapting their product delivery to enterprise needs. When customers pushed back on having to adopt a new UI, they pivoted to an API-first approach. As Avi recounts: "They said that the organization is so accustomed already to a certain UI and UX that they would rather have all of the beautiful things that we can provide...But it doesn't have to come through our own UI."

This flexibility has helped them overcome one of the biggest challenges in selling to banks - the notoriously long sales cycles. "In the banking industry, especially with financial services, but particularly, I think with banks and insurance companies, the average sales cycle is something like 24 months from the first meeting to the moment you sign a contract," Avi notes.

Their solution? Create a data-first approach that minimizes what they need from banks to deliver value. "We created a situation where as a data company, we own the data and we created this data lake that encompasses every technology solution in the world," Avi explains. This has helped reduce sales cycles to 6-12 months - still long, but significantly better than industry standard.

Looking ahead, Avi envisions Entrio becoming the standard platform for technology decisions in financial institutions. It's a bold vision, but one that stems from deep understanding of their market's needs rather than just ambition.

The lesson for founders? Sometimes the best category isn't one that exists yet. But creating a new one requires more than just clever marketing - it needs to be grounded in real customer problems and backed by a product that delivers unique value.

Five takeaways from this conversation.

Actionable for Regtech founders

  1. Leverage Existing Resources Efficiently
    One of Avi's key insights was the shift from introducing new technologies to optimizing existing ones. This approach can significantly enhance operational efficiency and is particularly useful for startups looking to provide value in industries with heavy technological investments.
  2. Understanding Customer Needs Deeply
    Avi’s pivot from his original business idea to what Entrio is today was based on deep customer insights. For founders, spending time understanding the real problems and pain points of your customers can lead to more impactful solutions and successful pivots.
  3. Reduce Customer Onboarding Complexity
    Entrio reduced the complexity of onboarding by creating a comprehensive data lake that mirrors a bank’s entire technology stack. This strategy of simplifying the customer's journey to adoption can accelerate ROI and improve customer satisfaction.
  4. Focus on Quick Wins to Shorten Sales Cycles
    In industries known for long sales cycles, finding ways to demonstrate immediate value can differentiate your product. Avi focused on quick implementation and immediate returns, which is a compelling selling point, especially in sectors like banking where changes are typically slow.
  5. Create a New Category If Necessary
    When existing market categories do not align with your vision or product, consider creating a new category. This bold move requires educating the market but can position your company as a leader in an emerging field, as Entrio did with "responsible tech adoption."