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Why Protecting Data Itself Beats Layering Security: Lessons from Calamu’s Category Creation Journey

The cybersecurity industry has been solving the same problem the same way for decades. Layer more security on the infrastructure. Build bigger walls around the walls. But what if the entire approach is fundamentally flawed?

In a recent episode of Category Visionaries, Paul Lewis, CEO and Co-Founder of Calamu, shared how a moment of inspiration from his golden retriever led to a completely different way of thinking about data security—one that’s creating a new market category called cyber storage.

The Origin Story: When Your Dog Teaches You About Data Security

Paul’s path to founding Calamu came from years of frustration working in incident response. “I was working with multi global corporations that were just getting hammered in cyber attacks, like over and over again. And I thought there had to be a better way to do this and there had to be a better solution,” Paul explains. “At the time, I was going to all the security conferences, and really, quite literally, I got tired of seeing like, 3000 companies selling the same ten things, and none of those things really were working.”

The breakthrough came in an unexpected moment. “I was sitting on my porch literally one night, and my dog, my golden retriever, was sitting next to me. And he got up and he picked up his bone and he trotted across the street and he buried a hole in my neighbor’s yard and put his bone there and covered it up and came back, and I could swear he was smiling,” Paul recalls. “And that was the moment of inspiration that I had that said, wow, he just put his most prized possession in the public domain, and he’s cool with it. He’s not worried about anybody accessing it.”

That simple observation fundamentally changed Paul’s thinking. “That really was the change in mindset that I needed to start thinking about how can we put our data in the cloud, which really is the public domain in a way that makes it truly safe?”

Breaking Through Market Noise: Anti-Fear Marketing in Cybersecurity

Walking through Black Hat or any major security conference reveals a troubling pattern: everyone’s messaging looks the same. Scary red colors. Fear tactics. Doom and gloom. Paul took a radically different approach with Calamu.

“It’s not about doom and gloom and it’s not about trying to scare people into buying our product. It’s about understanding that there is a better way, right? And there’s a better way to protect your data,” Paul says. “We’re not trying to say, hey, you’re going to be the next victim or watch over your shoulder, or you’ve got all these problems with your infrastructure. We’re saying, hey, we live in a real world and there are real world problems and we’re just a solution to help you and help your organization continue to stay in business and absorb an attack without having downtime from an attack.”

This messaging strategy resonates because security leaders have become numb to fear-based marketing. “Maybe it worked 15 years ago, but I think today everybody knows all the stats, everybody knows all the problems. Everybody’s tired of hearing about the problems. We know what they are,” Paul notes. “So it’s innovative solutions that I think they’re getting the attention and the CEOs are responding, right. They don’t want to hear about how can I be same old and just put another layer of security on or build a bigger wall around the wall. It’s more about what’s something that’s innovative, what’s a new way of looking at things?”

Creating a New Category: The Cyber Storage Market

Calamu isn’t just building another security product—they’re defining an entirely new category. “We’re in a category called cyber storage. So it’s cybersecurity, but cyber storage is the way that we think about storing data in a way where we’re protecting the data itself. And it’s actually a new category. So Gartner recognizes this as a new category. Just recently, they recognize it as an emerging category,” Paul explains.

The fundamental difference in approach is significant. “Instead of putting layered security on the infrastructure, and instead of trying to protect the network that holds the data, Calamu protects the data itself, regardless of what infrastructure happens to be on.”

This is particularly critical for addressing the real ransomware problem—double extortion. “Ransomware doesn’t address the problem really, that ransomware is all about when we talk about these backup store solutions, which is double extortion. So we have double extortion where data is actually stolen from the network and that data is then weaponized back against the company and used against the company and threatened to be released. And that’s really where we see the biggest growing kind of pain that we’ve got around ransomware.”

The Market Education Challenge

Creating a new category means changing how people think. “The single greatest challenge for us is it’s a change in mindset, right? So nobody really before was thinking about protecting the data at the data layer. They were thinking about protecting the infrastructure. And there’s billions, trillions of dollars spent protecting the infrastructure,” Paul shares.

The good news? Once the concept clicks, adoption follows quickly. “We’re not saying you don’t need to do that, but we’re saying, look, that’s not working as well as we all hoped it would work. So let’s look at protecting the data. Even if the data is removed from your control. So changing that mindset is really the greatest thing, the greatest challenge that we’ve had partly education, not a lot of education, because as soon as we kind of talk through it and explain the process and how it works, people kind of get it right away, and then they get excited about it.”

Working with analyst firms like Gartner plays a key role in this education process. “We’re not trying to obviously we’d love to get market, we’d love to see if we can get exposure in market, but it’s really more trying to educate because what we’re going through is a change in mindset. We’re changing from this layered security model where we’re layering on more and more security onto the infrastructure, into we don’t have to worry about that so much because we’re really now just trying to protect the data, especially if the data gets into the hands of third party or someone that shouldn’t have it.”

Finding Product-Market Fit: The Surprising Bell Curve

Calamu’s adoption pattern reveals interesting insights about market dynamics. “We’re really seeing a real bell curve here. So we’re seeing small, medium businesses are kind of signing up pretty quickly. They get it. They see the value prop. They get it. And then we’re getting a lot of attention from large enterprise, which is interesting to me,” Paul notes. “It’s really the two ends of the bell curve that we’re seeing the most activity right now.”

Large enterprises, despite their reputation for moving slowly, are quick to adopt innovative security technologies. “Large enterprise, they are innovators. While they typically move slowly, they don’t move slowly, necessarily with cyber. And they see emerging technologies as being very important to their future.”

The sweet spot for early adoption centers on sensitive data with retention requirements. “The first applications that we’re seeing are typically around sensitive data, where there’s a long term data requirement and data has to be moved from on prem to the cloud. And this is a great solution to make that happen.”

The Cloud Trust Problem Calamu Solves

As enterprises move to the cloud, they face a fundamental trust issue. “When you go to the cloud, you’re actually putting your hands, your data into the hands of a third party. Right? So for the first time, you’re taking it out of your complete control and you have to control one of the hyperscalers, whether it be Amazon or Microsoft or Google oracle or whoever else. But you have to trust another company. And that’s scary. That’s a scary thing,” Paul explains.

This is where Calamu’s approach provides unique value. “The way that we process data with Calamu is we’re kind of reducing the burden of the fear of putting your data into the hands of a third party. Because when we process it, we keep it really, truly safe, even in a cloud environment or a multi cloud environment.”

Crossing the Chasm in Cybersecurity

Paul is candid about where Calamu sits in its market journey. “We’re right in the middle of crossing it. So we’re in that kind of scary land where we’re not quite at scale. We’re just getting to that point. And we’re looking at all things product market, fit, messaging. What exactly is the value prop that we’re going after? We’re kind of multifaceted with benefits that we bring. So we feel like we bring so much benefit, but we can’t boil the ocean. So what we’re trying to do is we’re really trying to zone in on the one thing that is really going to allow us to get to scale.”

This focus becomes even more critical in category creation, where the temptation to showcase every benefit can dilute the core message that drives adoption.

A Bold Vision: Eliminating Ransomware

Paul’s five-year vision is ambitious. “Today we do a great job of protecting data at rest in the cloud, and we have a vision of protecting all data. Right. So all data, whether it be transactional data in motion, any kind of data, we’ve got a big vision to do that. I’d love to see some of these cyber problems like ransomware completely eliminated, just a thing of the past, part of our history and not something that we’re still talking about.”

When pressed on whether ransomware can truly be eliminated, Paul remains optimistic. “People think I’m crazy because the bad guys are always smarter, the mouse is always faster than the cat. But I think in this case, I could see a difference because we’re changing the battle surface. Right. We’re kind of changing the attack vector. And if we can eliminate that attack vector altogether, luck. I think there could be some ransomware extortion, or it’s always going to be bad guys for trying to get money out of companies, but they’re not going to do it by what we traditionally call ransomware. Today, that’s going to be gone.”

The key insight driving this confidence? “We start with the premise that the bad actor has reached the data. So there’s been a failure somewhere in the system and they’ve actually reached the data. So we’re trying to cut through the noise by putting out messaging that the attack has happened. And we need to be comfortable with the fact that attacks continue to happen even with great technologies and great emerging technologies to protect the data. Eventually the data is reached and when the data is reached, that’s where Kalamu kicks in.”

By accepting that breaches will happen and focusing on protecting the data itself rather than preventing every possible intrusion, Calamu has found a fundamentally different approach to an industry problem. For founders building in crowded markets, Paul’s journey offers a clear lesson: sometimes the breakthrough isn’t a better version of what everyone else is doing—it’s questioning whether the entire approach needs to change.

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